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[*] posted on 9-24-2007 at 01:45 AM
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So what does everyone think of the new official website ?

Me, I think it is ok, but Official websites are rarely as good as the fan sites (here, Jon's, etc).

Covers the basics, news, has a forum, etc.
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[*] posted on 9-24-2007 at 04:23 AM


Not bad....................but should export the old database and not optimise with firefox so will be some work with this. :)

Cheers :yawn:
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[*] posted on 9-24-2007 at 09:31 AM


Okay, so now the website looks a little better than before, but it's already being spammed with viagra ads, and something about buying small arms from Tanzania?! And how long before FW starts asking again "Who played keyboards on In The Clouds?" for the tenth time, and various others start in yet again with "Which was better 'Peace' vs. 'Electric'?" A better question would be: Which is worse, the spammers or the same idiotic chit chat from before?
Again, at least the site does actually *look* better now than the "place holder/ all white" website they had before, but it remains to be seen if the CONTENT of the website will make it worthwhile.
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[*] posted on 9-24-2007 at 09:39 AM
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Okay, so now the website looks a little better than before, but it's already being spammed with viagra ads, and something about buying small arms from Tanzania?! And how long before FW starts asking again "Who played keyboards on In The Clouds?" for the tenth time, and various others start in yet again with "Which was better 'Peace' vs. 'Electric'?" A better question would be: Which is worse, the spammers or the same idiotic chit chat from before?
Again, at least the site does actually *look* better now than the "place holder/ all white" website they had before, but it remains to be seen if the CONTENT of the website will make it worthwhile.


yeah, i noticed the Ad's appearing up on there. I can't log into the forum for some reason so I think it might still be a bit buggy. Shame, I had some viagra for sale ;)
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[*] posted on 9-24-2007 at 05:35 PM


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Okay, so now the website looks a little better than before, but it's already being spammed with viagra ads, and something about buying small arms from Tanzania?! And how long before FW starts asking again "Who played keyboards on In The Clouds?" for the tenth time, and various others start in yet again with "Which was better 'Peace' vs. 'Electric'?" A better question would be: Which is worse, the spammers or the same idiotic chit chat from before?
Again, at least the site does actually *look* better now than the "place holder/ all white" website they had before, but it remains to be seen if the CONTENT of the website will make it worthwhile.


Apparently, the webmaster has fixed the spam problem. So no more schlongs for super imposed Britney/Paris/Jessica.

From what I understand Homer, you may be surprised with the new forum.
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[*] posted on 9-24-2007 at 07:00 PM


I sincerely hope that I am surprised with the site Ed. For a band that has said as much and hopefully has as much more to say as The Cult, and with such an inspired and inspiring singer as Ian, it really was sad and tragic and pathetic to look at their official website and see ... well, ... basically nothing but white. Oh, yes, and a purple wolf banner at the top. And a generic block lettering used for the font. Yippee.

Edcult, question:
Is there any word on which specific countries 'Born Into This' is being released in? I have Cult records/ cds/ tapes from places like Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Sweden etc., and I'm wondering is this this record going to have the same worldwide release as the earlier Cult records had?

edit: by the way the band photo now on the site is fantastic, the best photo I've seen of the band and specifically Ian in a LONG time.

[Edited on 9-25-2007 by Homer]
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[*] posted on 9-24-2007 at 07:58 PM
Yeah, looks like they cleaned it up a bit...



....and made it with stark contrasts. Looks rather generic for the "official" website.

That "Talk to The Cult" section is gone which is fine with me (which went down like Lead (sic) Zepplin. Hopefully, it won't become a cluster f#@k like the last one with the same old questions or posts where everyone knows the answer.

Hey Homer! If one were to kick it to Florida for a gig; which venue(s) would be worth the "bang" in gang, so to speak.




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[*] posted on 9-24-2007 at 08:18 PM


I'll check with the guys at RR Canada. Something tells me there is a U.S/Canada release and an International to cover the rest of the globe.

Oh yeah, for anyone who was wondering about the SE being released on the 2nd? Its in stores in Canada on the 2nd, so I would imagine it'll be in the U.S. also.
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[*] posted on 9-24-2007 at 09:36 PM


The Lake Buena Vista/ Orlando HOB would probably be the best venue of the three in Flariduh. I saw the Cult there in 2001 and it was a great venue with a great atmosphere- FAR superior to Jannus Landing. Can't say one way or the other about the Ft Lauderdale venue as I've never been there before.
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[*] posted on 9-25-2007 at 07:09 AM


Yeah,.. the House of Blues in Orlando is a great place to see a show. Get there early for floor or front row of balcony,.,. this place fills up fast.
Jannus Landing is a shithole,., one of the worst in the US.
And Revolution in Fort Lauderdale is a wonderful venue. I've seen several acts (among them Dio, Black Crowes, Slayer) and love the sight lines,.,. but,., the side speakers (not talking about Fire Woman..) are spread distant, making vocals a bit hard to hear unless you're 10+ people back. It is an outdoor venue.
http://www.jointherevolution.net/

I'm down for HOB and Revolution (25 minutes from mi casa).
Don't know if I'll do Jannus again.

The renovated new website,., let's give it a couple of weeks and see what kind of immigration arrives and what gets spoken.
That will surely tell who leaves as well.
It was a shame, from my POV, to think that The CULT was defined in 2007 by the white & purple mess of (mostly) dumbasses who co-habitated in the cellar and spewed blather on the walls.
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[*] posted on 9-25-2007 at 10:09 AM


re: georgethehugecultfan

his name is george, he's a huge cult fan--comments please
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[*] posted on 9-25-2007 at 10:28 AM


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re: georgethehugecultfan

his name is george, he's a huge cult fan--comments please



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[*] posted on 9-25-2007 at 10:29 PM


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a cluster f#@k like the last one with the same old questions or posts where everyone knows the answer.


the new come, the old go, and some remain. and everything moves in circles.
will you penalize new fans because they are late to the party?

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dumbasses who co-habitated in the cellar and spewed blather on the walls.

are you fuckin' kidding me?
open your mind people, let it go. breathe. to each a zone.

i'm (not) sorry, but this snobbery is trite.
come on over, the water is warm...
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[*] posted on 9-26-2007 at 12:09 AM


i don't think it's that snobby. i frequent the official board but i must admit i do get rather tired of wading through the ian is hot/ what's your favourite song threads.



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[*] posted on 9-26-2007 at 02:25 AM


I don't think it is snobbery. Just people saying that there are a number of boards out there and that one does not work for them.
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[*] posted on 9-26-2007 at 09:28 AM


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his name is george, he's a huge cult fan--comments please


just think of all the things i could get done if i had all that spare time too :grin:




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[*] posted on 9-26-2007 at 09:54 AM


I don’t know, I’m pretty much on the fence about the new site. While I think there’s merit to Homer and Mike’s complaints about the pre-redesign official site, I think it's a little overblown. Sure, there was no shortage of stupid, pointless discussion about Ian’s hair or trousers, and george was always good for a “Grape Nuts: no grapes, no nuts. Discuss”, but there was also some pretty good discussion driven by vets like me, Windmill, Ed, Jay, Ward, JRoberto, Snake and others. Truthfully, there aren’t more than a handful of people who post here who don’t also post there, and the info found there was by far the most current. Also, when you think about it, life in this day and age can pretty much be wholly characterized by the act of parsing thorough massive amounts of b.s. to get to the few bits of information that are useful and interesting. Television, radio, the web, magazines, etc. all require this skill, and if we aren’t willing to do it, we’ll never do anything. I found it easy enough to sidestep the sideshow to make the experience worthwhile.

The new official site certainly looks better, but it’s buggy as hell, and I think it was a massive mistake to not carry over the posts from the previous board. By trashing that board, they dumped a year-and-a-half of tour diaries, photos, reviews and lot of the “Peace” vs. “Electric” groundwork that was already out of the way. Without that, we’re back to “What’s your favorite album”, and I’m inclined to think that Homer’s right that it’s not worth going through all that again. We’ll see, but I also can't help but feel that the best way to elevate the conversation is to have our best and brightest participate, not obstain.
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[*] posted on 9-26-2007 at 02:46 PM


Considering I now have 2 accounts at the new board, and can't log in with either one, because neither has been activated yet, they can pretty much go suck it as far as I'm concerned.



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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 11:29 AM


the message board has been cut (or maybe pruned) back to only a hand full of topics...which will concentrate the mind ever more into a control state...something i will not partake in...

yeah i know...much to the relief of all those deadly serious posters who live for the Cult.

ain't very punk rock or back to your roots IMHO

oh well...my loss is everyone else's gain :no:




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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 12:27 PM


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I think it was a massive mistake to not carry over the posts from the previous board. By trashing that board, they dumped a year-and-a-half of tour diaries, photos, reviews and lot of the “Peace” vs. “Electric” groundwork that was already out of the way. Without that, we’re back to “What’s your favorite album”, and I’m inclined to think that Homer’s right that it’s not worth going through all that again. We’ll see, but I also can't help but feel that the best way to elevate the conversation is to have our best and brightest participate, not obstain.


I agree; it was a huge (no pun intended with George) mistake to toss all of the live show reviews, in particular. I think the site still has a lot of value and look to it as a key source of new information, albeit buried in between other nonsense. But, I am sure it will get better once the shows start, and people start posting setlists, pics and reviews. I know I will do my part, and you're probably right: the best way to deal with the bs is to participate and add more appealing points. It's a pretty exciting time, with a new album, and new tour about to start--we've all been waiting for all of that for a long time.
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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 12:51 PM


You're all right about the show reviews and pix.
You're also all right about the people.
Except for andrea over there,., you're spot on: I'm a snob. Get used to it.

See,., with the 'official' site, people like myself have made the conscious decision to stay off and be entertained (or appalled) by the show. I do look in from time to time, but I have nothing to add there,., the place speaks for itself by the atmosphere presented by the webmaster and the songs sung by the congregation.

After the album drops and the tour is over,., will the 'official' site even be relevant.,,. updated,., new merch? Will it still be there in 2009? Will there ever be a months-long string of trivia like we had here,., and gatherings of 'regulars' like we who have been on board with Jon's site for +10 years?
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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 01:28 PM


i think not mmmike. but there'll always be a party here for those who knows this place exists :smug:



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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 02:50 PM


yea man - the party is always here. don't really like the official site that much, seems like it doesnt give much and lost opportunities abound, such as messages, audio, visual, specials for the thru fans etc.. they know we'll take any scraps that they throw us. seems scant really, but did enjoy the old forum and it is a dissappointment that its been quashed...forums are sometimes read months, even years after the post date. lets not be too hard on anyone new in the forums asking about ian's jeans or socks, i mean, we all had to start somewhere to get into the tribe for real.

by the way - i guess there isnt going to be a video for DLR?

and i guess the australian release date will be 2nd Oct?

cheers friends (i love this site)

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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 04:33 PM


ok - i may have spoken a little to soon.
i don't know what the hell is going on over there today, but it's a bit orwellian for my taste.
*opens mouth & gently removes foot*

this is an important time for the band & new fans are coming to the official forum looking for info. i guess i just feel that if the site is abandoned by the long-term fans who possess relevant insight into the music, then the silliness wins and the newbies lose. anywho, no hard feelings....
back to the animal farm for me...
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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 07:34 PM


I don't know what the hell is going on over there either. I've registered with no problem but didn't attempt to log in or post, yet. With the way things are going I will not post until after the 2nd October.
I like george. He's always asking to learn more about The Cult and reaching out for others to share their personal views. I imagine him to behave like the wrestler who used to chase after Mz Elizabeth. Keeps it fun that way. No offense intended.
Old, new, silly, serious. Diversity is good.

Too bad it feels like there's been an issue to muzzle the wolfchildren and an order de-claw the big cats.

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This too will pass in time.


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[*] posted on 9-27-2007 at 10:21 PM


Let's give it a week. With Ian not posting, it might change the girls' attitude, but I think the deletions and restrictions will be worst than ever. I don't feel like posting either.
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[*] posted on 9-28-2007 at 12:46 AM


i don't give a week... i was banned there... Only sad because it's my first post here, and i should come here earlier...

Not only deleted posts, people were banned from there, me included... It's sad, the way the things went there!

Nice to be here! So let's have some fun!




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[*] posted on 9-28-2007 at 01:19 AM


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i don't give a week... i was banned there... Only sad because it's my first post here, and i should come here earlier...

Not only deleted posts, people were banned from there, me included... It's sad, the way the things went there!

Nice to be here! So let's have some fun!


Don't care with that.............really weird this new site thing and their philosophy.

Sad...........that you registered only now here (you should be more earlier). This is great place for all Cult fan.

Cheers :cool:
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[*] posted on 9-28-2007 at 01:45 AM


FFS.

I don't know WTF is going on either. I posted 2 reviews. 1 from Kerrang which wasn't overly positive (still rated as "good" tho), one from Record Collector that was more positive ("excellent"). The Kerrang one was deleted. If you want to read it then it's in the review section here. Pi**ed me off that there is a review section but seems you can only post positive things - I was assuming a review is a review. As much as I have tried and persevered, got totally disillusioned, gone away and occasionally popped back and tried to contribute I think I am now officially done there. I think fan forums are best served on fan sites anyway like here and Jon's.

Such a shame that at a time that there is so much good stuff going on (tour, album) that there is such disillusionment in the camp.

Let's look forward to more "pink" and focus on the good stuff now, what do you say ?

[Edited on 28-9-2007 by andy71]

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[*] posted on 9-28-2007 at 03:27 AM


Hi, I'm (WARD) back again also...don't feel home at the new official forum
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